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Ashwin K's avatar

Interesting. I treat all LLMs like the Talented Mr. Ripley, the prose (and code) flattering to deceive and progressively better at doing so with each interactionโ€ฆ.until, you know, the murders.

Have you been baking in your skepticism and tolerance for gray nuance into your task instructions in any formal way?

I use global and project-specific context documents that cover all manner of doโ€™s and donโ€™ts. I do now find myself needing to push back less than before, though perhaps merely in correspondence with my will to live.

Luca Turin ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ's avatar

Thank you for reminding me of global commands, which I have used very little so far. I mostly complain when the AI makes too many assumptions, jumps to conclusions and wrongly attributes intents to me. Other than that, I have learned to live with its quirks.

Gabriel's avatar

Custom instructions were absolutely de rigeur for the 2024 graduating class of models if you didn't want boilerplate marketing garbage. I myself invested 30 hours in April to get GPT-4o to be terse and eschew the reviled CTAs. But as Ashwin points out, the 2026 class is far better able to follow our tastes. I could probably begin reducing the mortal stakes claimed in my hard-won instruction set, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Gabriel's avatar

Side note: I learned more about LLMs than I thought possible for a non-transformer-pipeline engineer during those 30 hours of struggle. It became clear that countering the default marketing was directly in opposition to the system instructions (like the model's unconscious) and in the exploration of ways around that, I entered some seriously hilarious and disturbing corners of virtual personality, including Viciously Nihilist Netizen Poet and Ridiculously Chill Surfer Texting Pal. GPT has been a delightfully terse cross between the two ever since that wild success.

Emma's avatar

Bwa ha. โ€˜Until, you know, the murdersโ€™ is my new Hail Mary in meetings when nothing else has got whatever it is put a stop to.

Glencora's avatar

โ€œYouโ€™re right to push back on the murders.โ€

Bill Troop's avatar

Interesting but I would rather read Nietzsche with the idea that to read him is to enter into a dispute with him. What is the font? I am very curious - - it is ultimately derived from small sizes of Walbaum.

Luca Turin ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ's avatar

Does Nietzsche have any views on the Bonferroni correction for multiple samples? DejaVu Serif for everything except the bottom reference line, which is DejaVu Sans.

Bill Troop's avatar

That is just what, imbibing N's profoundly contrarian spirit, you have to imagine for yourself ! Keeping in mind Heidegger's insight that paradox is not what make's N great. I must learn more about that font. It does to Walbaum what Scala does to Bembo, but going even further.

Luca Turin ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ's avatar

โ€œIt does to Walbaum what Scala does to Bembo, but going even furtherโ€ Jโ€™allais le dire! ๐Ÿ™‚

Bill Troop's avatar

Reading up on Deja Vu, I see it is supposed to derive from M Carter's Charter, one of his very best fonts, which was inspired by Fournier, not Walbaum though both can be classified as transitional types. What exists here seems to me more Walbaum-ish. I will have to look into it. A complicating factor is that there are many versions of 'Charter'. I have letters from Matthew Carter that are printed in a form of Charter which nobody else has.

Kate Harwood's avatar

Fabulous. I have shared with my son who writes about AI for the Economist. He is unlikely to find you as I am not entirely sure he knows perfume existsโ€ฆ.

Luca Turin ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ's avatar

Thank you! The Economist is one of the few publications that seems to take AI seriously without delusional optimism or anxious pearl-clutching. But your son need to have a conversation about perfumeโ€ฆ

Notes On Useful Beauty's avatar

You are so funny. Love James Carse.

John Paul Boukis's avatar

Ah, โ€œFinite and Infinite Gamesโ€ is one of my favorite experiences of reading! With that delightful discovery, I recommend to you (if you have not already encountered it) โ€œFree Play: Improvisation in Life and Artโ€ by Stephen Nachmanovitch.

michael reid hunter's avatar

I just reread Finite and Infinite Games; still as luminous as ever. I love that Julian Barbour was one of its enthusiastic reviewers.

Janine Linden's avatar

Finite and infinite games is a personal favorite. In my limited experience so far, AI responses have had a seductive fluency that really seems to obligate that push back. Which is hard work. TANSTAAFL.

Kate Harwood's avatar

Fabulous. I have shared with my son who writes about AI for the Economist. He is unlikely to find you as I am not entirely sure he knows perfume existsโ€ฆ.

Nigel Barker's avatar

Don't push it too much.